Veto's In: What The Dems Should Do Next
(cross posted at Daily Kos -- with poll)
OK, first things first: I was wrong.
Moving on...Chris Weigant wrote an open letter to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi detailing what the Dems should do now that Bush has vetoed the bill. In brief, here's what he says:
- Lose the pork.
Any Dem who bolts will be known to have only been for the pork in the first place -- not a great position to take right now. - Leave in the money for veterans' benefits.
Let Bush complain about that all he wants -- this is our way of respecting the troops. - Lose the timetable.
Sorry -- if he didn't OK it this time (when he could have easily issued a signing statement taking the money and ignoring the deadlines), he'll never go for it. Besides, the American people will be the final judge of when it's time to come out (see below). I don't think they'll blame the Dems for not trying. - Leave in the benchmarks -- but take out the consequences.
You don't need any consequences written into the bill -- because the American people will provide all the consequences the Dems want or need.Check it out: Bush said, "When the Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down." Well, it's clear now (and the American people know it too) that the Iraqis aren't going to stand up anytime soon; they're too busy killing each other (or letting the government go on a two-month vacation). So leave in the benchmarks and let the electorate provide the only consequence that matters -- a massive electoral defeat for the Republican party in '08. By this time next year, the Republicans will be facing an exile from power that will last for a generation or more. What better consequence could the Dems ask for?
- Leave in the standards for troop-readiness.
Again: this is how we respect the troops. And the Republicans? I'll leave it to sell the idea that, "you go with the Army you have, not the Army you'd like to have."
Nor is a weaker one.
The scenario Weigant talks about is the most realistic one I've seen yet that stands a chance of passage -- while putting the Dems on the right side of the issue morally and politically.
You have to move the ball forward, even if it is just by inches at a time.
Comments
I always thought that Murtha’s readiness requirement was brilliant. I wonder why so many Democrats failed to get that.
Yes, send the bill "clean" but with the readiness, rotation and benchmarks provisions. Let Bush come to the Congress and the people if he wants to insist that he doesn’t have enough troops without over-deploying and under equipping them, and ask to expand the Army and Marines.
And pass legislation declaring the original authorization to disarm Iraq moot. If Bush wants authorization for whatever the f*ck he thinks he’s doing, again, he should have to explain it to the people and their representatives and ask their permission.
Posted by: shep
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May 2, 2007 10:18 AM
Richardson gets it:
Posted by: shep
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May 2, 2007 04:29 PM
It's a clever approach. I have some concerns:
Also, I'm wary of involving the Supreme Court on any fight between the Legislative and Executive branches.
Posted by: Ara Rubyan
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May 2, 2007 06:38 PM
Boy, everyone wants to be wrong today!
Posted by: Ron Coleman
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May 2, 2007 09:47 PM
”If there is enough support to get passage, we should go into this knowing that there will be a legal fight that will last until Bush leaves office -- and the practical effect of ending the war would be lost.”
Well, if I haven’t been clear, I think that the practical matters are mostly out of our hands. Because of where the Republicans have put us, we will be responding to what others do for the foreseeable future.
On the political side, many Americans still don’t have a clue what this is about (did you say something Ron?). Defining the mission is the first step to shaping future policy and public support of same. Due to Republican false advertising at the outset of the war and continued mendacity on the subject, unfortunately, that’s where we need to start.
You do realize that we will be having that “legal fight” regardless of whether Americans understand what the fight is about. I figure Democrats are better off if they do.
Posted by: shep
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May 2, 2007 10:49 PM