Is Obama's vote on this going to live in infamy like Hillary's vote on Iraq?
shep said:
Well, let's put it this way: it pissed-off both the left and civil libertarian independents while making Republicans and the beltway establishment (assuming there's a difference) happy because they get to cover up their crimes and accuse Obama of flip-flopping on something that no one on the left will defend him on. And Hillary just made a one craven vote on what turned out to be a disastrous war; Obama practically single-handedly enabled this gross assault on the Constitution and the rule of law.
I think what we're witnessing is a guy who sees the presidency within his grasp and will stop at nothing to get it.
shep said:
This cover-up was obviously critically important for most of the political elite, including the corporate media, and Obama may very well have had to get in line here to avoid getting "the Liberal Democrat Treatment".
Nevertheless, he just used up all of the rope I was willing to give him and, otherwise, I think it was big and very sad mistake.
Is Obama's vote on this going to live in infamy like Hillary's vote on Iraq?
Well, let's put it this way: it pissed-off both the left and civil libertarian independents while making Republicans and the beltway establishment (assuming there's a difference) happy because they get to cover up their crimes and accuse Obama of flip-flopping on something that no one on the left will defend him on. And Hillary just made a one craven vote on what turned out to be a disastrous war; Obama practically single-handedly enabled this gross assault on the Constitution and the rule of law.
Does that answer your question?
I think what we're witnessing is a guy who sees the presidency within his grasp and will stop at nothing to get it.
This cover-up was obviously critically important for most of the political elite, including the corporate media, and Obama may very well have had to get in line here to avoid getting "the Liberal Democrat Treatment".
Nevertheless, he just used up all of the rope I was willing to give him and, otherwise, I think it was big and very sad mistake.